Psalms 117:1 – and finally Psalms 107:31, “Oh that men would praise the Lord…” God yearns for men to praise Him. Pls read below. 300V, 7.50 mm     Is it Biblical for Women to be Pastors or Elders? We left in June of this year. And for those that are confused, Scripture is black and white and some contains red. How is that “bashing?” I am holding myself to the same standards. Maybe your gift is acceptance and tolerance but many people have the gift of discernment and they simply can’t ignore certain things because that’s how God designed them. All Rights Reserved. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.” 2 timothy 2:14, […] the New Apostolic Reformation, or leaders like Bill Johnson and Todd White, please refer to the following article and read the sources linked in it for further […], […] Now I kept this as last since I don’t want to elaborate too much on it, but I do want to point out a few things that are very wrong about those so-called “churches” . 15A     This is a a great description of what happened when a word has been translated incorrectly. And that my friend is some twisted theology. The religious leaders in Jesus day thought He was off….so whats different now! I can’t believe there are Christians who don’t believe God is so good. What I’ve read from the article and most the replies is akin to the fascism put forth by the various factions of our society and by extension the church at large. There are many more examples of bethel’s heretical beliefs and they are alarming if you know your Bible. I’m sure we could sharpen one another with more. Jesus always was and is fully God, and while we also have the Holy Spirit (though not list Christ who had Him without measure), we are not and will never be God. You guys are again just finding any excuse to silence those who disagree with you. The above passage says it all regarding the command to be discerning while walking in righteousness. No they dont. I’m an advocate of scrutinizing the theology of everything we use in our churches, but at some point, it can be difficult. The Arian Snare is out in full force, deceiving thousands upon thousands with emotional appeal and buzzwords. If you think I am joking look it up for yourselves. If someone in the pulpit said it, attendees seemed to all buy it. 5. All these people arguing, specifically against Bethel, are nothing more than modern day Pharisees. I’m not dogmatic about much of anything these days, and I have a hard time with those who claim to have precise doctrine one way or another about the nature of God and Jesus. Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. The division between Judah and Israel is another example of this. Could you even? If you believe that God is a rainbow unicorn, that is still (false) theology. Your email address will not be published. Are Bethel teaching and singing of the same Jesus( who incidentally needed to be born again, according to Bill Johnson) that the one revealed in Scripture? 300V, 7.62 mm     […], From January 25th – February 3rd I and a brother from our church embarked on a 34-hour journey deep into the heart of India. Bethel are termed heretical because of their beliefs about the person/deity of Christ. Popularity does not make for truth or sound doctrine. Sorry, so you don’t think God is a good father? Yes. It seems that when an opposing view on theology is heard about from this site they are quick to shoot it down without real debate. I ask of you politely if you need to use my writing please cite me – John Joo . And I’m not even going to rhetorically ask if he does, as I’m not God, and nor are you. Christ Emptied…Himself! 150V, 5.00 mm     the Holy Spirit), you cannot be anything else but God (with a capital G) too. This all began for me because my Church and beloved Pilgrim Radio Station started playing the song ‘Reckless’ by Corey Asbury. Exact same scenario. All of these have worked in various situational contexts. Let them decide for themselves, when they get to the judgment as we all will, they’ll find out what errors if any were committed. You’re talking about character assaults and false claims yet yet your article is so full of them. Jesus’ disciples were admonished to beware of the leaven/doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees, Matthew 16:6-12. Costi I sincerely believe is offended at his family member and is on the warpath to do all he can to discredit Benny. Your email address will not be published. People don’t get to box the Holy Spirit in or judge what He does. For instance, Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit for his messianic role – He conformed this Himself in Luke 4:18. Dit betekent dat Zalando.nl als webshop is gecertificeerd door de Stichting Certificering Thuiswinkel Waarborg. I don’t know too many believers who want to knowingly support false teachers. Gretchen Whitmer, were a Trump-inspired “dress rehearsal” for the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Solomon rebelled and the Catholic Church turned to man-glorifying legalism. Turns out the pastor’s favourite song is “Good. Read the Bible… miracles still happen… I am one. So you’re saying that because they have error in their beliefs, it automatically renders all their songs worthless. Hi, Satan will have many in hell with him that fell prey to deception. You lose me when you bring out the song police and start censoring songs. Is the name of Jesus, the Word of God, and the power of the Holy Spirit applicable to modern times? There are many others and probably a lot worse. God bless you, thank you for an awesome reply and having a word ready. I’ve got scriptures to back up my claim! i have my opinions on this, but for now thats not the point. Wright, N.T. John MacArthur along with most other neo-reformers are acolytes of John Calvin, the unrepentant murderer of Michael Servetus. Jordan and Tim, allow me to borrow a phrase from John McEnroe, “You cannot be serious! Philippians 2:7 does not teach that Christ emptied himself of His deity. What did Christ pour out? 1000V, 2.54 mm     Vital Electrocomp is one of the leading manufacturers of terminal blocks and connectors for PCB applications. One of the biggest issues I have with movements like Jesus Culture and Bethel music is that they focus on an emotional experience instead of a relational experience with the one and only Almighty Creator God. That means we need to view them as a mission field instead of making excuses for our using the music. Every author, every preacher, teacher, etc. I am not “bashing” them. Would I classify Bethel as a cult? It could be a lot worse.they could be singing rap or hip hop grabage. If anything, the question of music is an easy one to deal with if you keep things biblically balanced. Have faith in God not man. “Keep reminding God’s people of these things. I don’t think any right-mnded individual would even hint that it were. I agree with you 100% Jean. God has forced me, driven me even, if you will, into scripture because I stumbled upon these strange movements. I’ve got no loyalty to Bethel or anyone else but know people who have been who were and still are are solid with God and love the Word. 250V. Despite the popularity of such ideas in some religious circles, they cannot be proven by citing Philippians 2:6-7 or any other passage in the Bible. Today, as the larger Body of Christ, we can do greater works globally and witness the miracle of salvation – the healing of the greatest illness(sin). That thing was Kryptonite. Might I suggest you immerse yourself in the word of God and prove yourself worthy to escape these judgements that will pour out on these people. Don’t muddy the waters. What we actually do is put ourselves inside a box and limit our trust in what the Holy Spirit can do through us. And it is just getting worse. Costi It seems your theology suggest greater things and gifts of the holy spirit are all based on human standards. He was with God in the beginning. This is why any doctrine that tells us we are or can be the same as Jesus (even as a man) is heretical. “He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.”. Ex. 24A     (One of the Hindu entities does this). Let’s be honest for a second, even it stings a bit. 5:10-14; 1 Thes. Hope these help! We had a very strong Biblical background coming out of the mormon church and feel it is a slippery slope when a church allows anything to come in that muddies the TRUTH!!! Inquiring minds ask, “What do you think about listening to the music, or using only the songs that are sound?”. When I tried to explain it was all a manifestation of the holy spirit, I realized the explanation was as bizarre as all that hyped up on emotion behavior was. (AMP) What’s wrong with that? In other words, he was born saved. PLEASE check these things, and then make a decision, and be accountable to God for that decision. It has footnotes, quotes from Bill Johnson and other Bethel leaders, and everything you need to know. We really do have to go back to our Bibles and study Scripture not only to enable us rightly handle the word of truth but to help us test what we hear. But not playing the fool doesn’t necessarily prove that you’re wise either. I’ve also wondered about what to do with people such as Martin Luther who was apparently quite anti-semetic. It is […], This article needs minimal introduction. We are to stay away from them. First, there are people who blame the devil for everything — even things that are their fault. Is this what Jesus meant? If you’re not familiar with Bill Johnson, Bethel Music, or Jesus Culture, here are 5 options to read through (both short and long). “Truth divides or it isn’t truth?” I would say Yes and No. He provides today because He is our supply. Great questions, brother.
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